John Titor και Τρίτη 19 Ιανουαρίου 2038Όταν το ρολόι χτυπήσει 14 λεπτά και επτά δευτερόλεπτα μετά τις τρεις το πρωί της Τρίτης 19 του Γενάρη του 2038, ένα σημαντικό bug αναμένεται να δημιουργήσει πανζουρλισμό στο διαδίκτυο.
Κάθε υπολογιστής, πρόγραμμα, server ή γκάτζετ που τρέχει 32bit σύστημα θα μπλοκάρει σε περίπτωση που δεν έχει διορθωθεί το πρόβλημα από τις εταιρείες και οι συσκευές δεν έχουν αναβαθμιστεί έγκαιρα.
Αυτό είναι γνωστό ως το Πρόβλημα του έτους 2038 (ή Υ2038) και είναι μια θεωρία που πρόσφατα αποδείχτηκε όταν το τραγούδι του Psy «Gangnam Style» ξεπέρασε τα δύο δισεκατομμύρια προβολές στο YouTube.
Το Υ2038 πλήττει ειδικά το λογισμικό χρησιμοποιώντας ένα σύστημα ακέραιων 32-bit. Πρόκειται για ένα παρόμοιο πρόβλημα που αντιμετώπισαν κατά το έτος 2000, όταν ο ιός της χιλιετίας, επίσης γνωστός ως το Y2K, έκανε ορισμένους υπολογιστές να μην μπορούν να διακρίνουν μεταξύ των ετών 1900 και 2000.
Τα συστήματα 32-bit χρησιμοποιούν τέσσερα ψηφία, που σημαίνει ότι μπορούν να χρησιμοποιήσουν 4GB μνήμης με μία κίνηση. Συγκριτικά, ένα σύστημα 16-bit χρησιμοποιεί 2 ψηφία και τα 64-bit χρησιμοποιούν οκτώ.
Αυτά τα συστήματα αποθήκευσης και εκτέλεσης διαδικασιών χρησιμοποιούν δυαδικά ψηφία, και συμβολίζονται ως 0 ή 1 - και ο συνολικός αριθμός των ψηφίων που αντιπροσωπεύει ένα σύστημα 32-bit μπορεί να είναι 4294967295.
Αλλά επειδή οι μισές τιμές είναι αρνητικές και οι μισοί είναι θετικές, δεν κυμαίνονται από το 0 έως το 4.294.967.295. Αντίθετα, οι συνολικοί αριθμοί κυμαίνονται από -2,147,483,648 έως 2147483647, καθιστώντας έτσι το ανώτερο όριο του συστήματος το 2147483647.
Αυτό σημαίνει ότι υπάρχει περιορισμένος χώρος αποθήκευσης που μπορεί να χρησιμοποιηθεί για την αποθήκευση όλων των ψηφίων 0 και 1.
Το YouTube βασίζεται επίσης σε ένα σύστημα 32-bit και όταν το βίντεο «Gangnam Style» του Psy έφθασε και ξεπέρασε αυτό το ανώτατο όριο ο μετρητής κυριολεκτικά κράσαρε.
Για να λυθεί το πρόβλημα, το Google ενημερώθηκε σε σύστημα 64 bit, το οποίο μπορεί να χειριστεί 9.223.372.036.854.775.807 ψηφία.
Η τυποποιημένη μορφή τεσσάρων byte ξεκίνησε από την 1η Ιανουαρίου 1970, στις 12:00:00 π.μ. Ετσι όταν το ρολόι δείξει 3:14:07 την Τρίτη, 19 του Ιανουαρίου του 2038, θα έχουν περάσει συνολικά 2.147.483.647 δευτερόλεπτα από την 1η Ιανουαρίου του 1970.
Τότε οι υπολογιστές δεν θα είναι σε θέση να διακρίνουν μεταξύ της πραγματικής ώρας και της ημερομηνίας, για το έτος 1901. Αυτό ονομάζεται «υπερχείλιση ακεραίων», και σημαίνει ότι ο μετρητής εξαντλήθηκε και θα αρχίσει να γράφει αρνητικούς αριθμούς.
Για ορισμένους υπολογιστές, αυτό θα σημαίνει απλώς ότι η ημερομηνία θα εμφανίζεται λανθασμένη, αλλά θα μπορούσε επίσης να καταστρέψει εντελώς τα προγράμματα που βασίζονται στο εσωτερικό ρολόι για να κάνουν ακριβείς μετρήσεις. Θα μπορούσε επίσης να καταστρέψει εξ ολοκλήρου το λογισμικό.
Πολλά κινητά τηλέφωνα, για παράδειγμα, καθώς και συστήματα πλοήγησης και αυτοκίνητα που χρησιμοποιούν ενσωματωμένα συστήματα που βασίζονται στην ημερομηνία και ώρα θα έχουν σοβαρό πρόβλημα.
Ειδικότερα, το σφάλμα επηρεάζει το λειτουργικό σύστημα Unix, το οποίο χρησιμοποιούν τηλέφωνα με Android και η Apple, καθώς οι περισσότεροι διακομιστές στο διαδίκτυο.
Ορισμένα προγράμματα που λειτουργούν με μελλοντικές ημερομηνίες θα έχουν πρόβλημα από νωρίς.
Για παράδειγμα, αν ένα πρόγραμμα κοιτάζει μπροστά 20 χρόνια, δεν θα είναι σε θέση να διαβάσει ημερομηνίες μετά την 19η Ιανουαρίου, 2038 και μπορεί να εμφανιστούν σφάλματα.
Πάνω σε αυτό το πρόβλημα εστιάστηκε το «ταξίδι στον χρόνο» του John Titor, το θέμα με απασχόλησε στην έρευνα μου και κατέβασα, για αναλυτικότερη μελέτη, το σύνολο των τεκταινόμενων τότε, το 2001, στο furum που απευθύνθηκε ο John Titor.
Posted by John Titor on 02-12-2001 11:51 PM
I almost made it to bed…
I’m flattered you went back and double checked.
((3. John wants to remain anon but posts numerous posts to this
board and at least 2 others where he expounds on, among other things,
the functioning and design of the TT machine. OK, here is the BIG
problem. Why would a TT’er reveal himself & the TT machine? In
John’s stated mission, these actions have no purpose.))
I still fail to see why this is a problem. If you can think of
another way where I can interact with people I would very much like to
hear your suggestions. Why isn’t the mere act of speaking with other
people an end in itself? Personally, I find the unit interesting and I
like talking about it. There must be something in your life like that.
((4. John alludes to a civil war being started between the
Democrats and Republicans. Later, this escalates into WW3 and he
mentions that it is a “good” thing for our soceity. ( 3 billion people
dead a “good” thing?))
I don’t believe I ever said the war was between Democrats and
Republicans. If I am incorrect, please point that out. It doesn’t
exactly escalate as much as it opens the door for other aggression.
Yes, I think the war would be good for society and I would be happy to
debate that with you.
((5. John tells us to: buy a gun, find 5 friends, get a bicycle,
yada, yada, yada. ( this conflicts with his above comments: here he
seems to want to save some people, while above he wants to kill us all
off))
If you could point out how this violates the three guidelines I
stated earlier I will give it considerable thought. Perhaps you are
correct and that was a mistake. Again, I don’t believe I said I want to
kill you. Personally, I think murder is wrong. You seem to be pretty
good at that yourself.
((6. In previous posts John mentions that he has no idea what
GINGER is but in a later post he mentions media hype and alludes to IT
not amounting to much.))
Again, I don’t believe I said that either. My point in that
conversation was about feeling manipulated by hype. Since they ARE
asking you to buy something, I would be very interested in your lengthy
and critical postings about ITS credibility. If you could post that
link I would very much like to see it.
((7. John mentions the Big War(2015) was between the Cities of
America (the enemy of John) and Russia, China, etc.(so not only do we
have a civil war but now we have a war between the city folk and rural
folk in the US, AND a world war))
Hmmm…are you familiar with the Russian partisan movement in WWII?
((8. John says the civil war which starts in 2004 or 2005
(depending on the post) leads to the world war which starts in 2015. (
So we have a TEN YEAR civil war???))
It’s 2004. I apologize for a missed key (very observant – we all
need good critics). Perhaps our definition of war is different. I would
define it as a conflict where organized groups engage in maneuver and
armed conflict. The first U.S. civil war lasted 4 years and the English
civil war lasted 6. How long is too long?
((9. John mentions that the mechanical typewriter is a major
machine again in the future, but in another post says the Internet
still exists and is widely used.
( Who builds typewriters anymore and who last used the typewriter in a
most infamous way? Hint: he lived in a one room cabin in Montana and
hated technology and soceity))
Actually, what I said was, “…you may be surprised at how many
people use typewriters.” I don’t understand the conflict. What’s wrong
with typewriters? At least you don’t have to plug them in.
Thanks for the patience…getting to the other questions.
Posted by John Titor on 02-19-2001 11:03 AM
CHAD:
((1. You have claimed several times that you will not participate in
assisting anyone to get out of ‘death by probability’. Yet any number
of the things that you have said could have already caused an
individual to do or not do something that will now result in them
either dying, or escaping death an otherwise fated death.))
It would help if you could give an example. If you are referring to
the conflict and war in your future, I’m not sure I’m specific enough
to help any individuals avoid anything. Suggesting there is a war
coming is a bit different than saying avoid Washington DC at 3:45 AM on
March 12, 2015.
((There is no way for you to know if there is no future world leader reading this and believing.))
Are you sure about that? Besides, I think you can have just as much impact as any “future leader”.
((2. You claim that you have no interest in proving to us that you
are a time-traveller. To hear you take such a stance is laughable. Look
at what a show you have put on here. Instead you tell us that you only
wish us to make us aware of time-travel as a possiblity (see #1 again),
or that you only wish to observe us and speak of cultural and religious
issues, something interesting to a historian.))
I submit there is no way for me to prove anything on the internet,
therefore it makes no sense to desire it. What exactly do you think I
could do to prove it to anyone? I am confused by your term “the show”.
Do you feel my only goal here is to entertain?
((You came and posted on this site with one intention that was
clear as of your first post: to make us believe that you are a
time-traveller. You have continued this thread for that purpose alone,
and I find everything you have done supports this.))
Again, I am unable to make you do anything nor would I want that.
((As far as wishing to speak of issues regarding our humanity, or
culture, it is quite clear that this is not your intention (contrary to
what you insist). If you truly wished to do this your first line would
not have been, ‘I am a time-traveller’. If you truly wished to do this
you would not have continued this thread once you realized that line
would not serve your claimed goals.))
I learn a great deal about your culture from the words you write (like right now). What do you think my goals are?
((The entirety of this thread has been: you developing your story.))
I’m not sure I understand this. How would “my story” differ it was “developed”?
((I find it very difficult to belive that a software tweak (hence
‘software engineers’, -software-) done to a 1975 machine could cause it
to do this translation more effectively or more portably than something
around even today.))
Ahhh…something we have in common. Yes, I felt that way too.
However, my job was to go and get it and not debate why they wanted it.
I am not a computer expert.
((I find it almost impossible to believe that a tweak done by a
‘software engineer’ in 1975 could provide for you something that you
could find at no other place between now and ‘your time’, and certainly
without having to make a stop-over in our time to get back that far.))
A great deal of the computer infrastructure you depend on is based
on very old systems and code. One of the reasons I was sent to 1975 was
because of the person I met there, not the technology.
((Furthermore, I find the notion that one of a limited number of
time-machines would be used in this manner to be nothing short of
nonsensical. There are more effective ways to accomplish what you claim
in this regard.))
Perhaps you would share them with me. You might be right and I could make your suggestions when I return.
((4. I have, and continue to believe Dr. Hawking’s view in regards
to the possibility of time travel if indeed the model of time is what
you have suggested, that all possibilities occur in different
time-lines, in different universes is the way that time truly is. For
this reason alone I cannot accept you. It is entirely logical, and I
have seen no good case to counter it.))
I’m not sure I understand what you mean. If you believe in Multiple
World Theory, Hawking was not the one who first thought of that. If you
do, then I must be real if all possibilities exist. As I recall,
Hawking felt that it was possible to build a machine but some sort of
vacuum fluctuations would destroy it right before you tried to use it.
((You claim that you have no desire to prove your story to us, yet
everything you have done from the moment you first posted here has
flown in the face of that.))
I’m not sure that’s true. In fact, I’ve tried to point out on at
least two occasions that anything I do (at the request of someone else)
to support my claims can be found someplace else on your worldline
right now.
((What is more, you bring with you the claim that you will tell us
no names, no locations, or any specifics as a result of your supposed
ethics. If those were indeed the ethics you were committed to and
reasoned with, you would not be here now.))
I am curious about this also. Do you think I should not interact with you for your safety or mine?
((I visit with a pink unicorn in the garden behind my house at
night and it talks to me. I would show it to you but it only comes out
when I am alone.))
For some reason, I believe you.
RYAN:
((Time travel may be possible, but if you were to time travel, you
would NOT land on Earth. You would land in a vacuum of space. You have
to take into account that the universe is expanding, the Earth, the
solar system and the galaxy are all moving. If you truely did travel
back through time, you’d materialize in 1970 where the Earth WILL be in
2036, which is NOT Earth.. it’s space.))
Yes, this is a problem. It was solved by taking a “snapshot” of the
local gravity around the unit before leaving a worldline and
incorporating it into the sinusoid during travel. The short answer is,
you “stick” to the earth but this is only a useful explanation to
understand it and it’s not practical. Since the computer system is
using a virtual reference, the calculations become flawed. Thus:
1. Based on the accuracy and timing of the “snapshots” the
distortion units are limited to how long they can travel before
becoming unstable.
2. We must leave and arrive in areas we have prior or future
knowledge of in order to avoid massive objects (buildings, water, etc…)
3. The unit has a fail-safe system during travel that drops out in
case of a unit shutdown or radical departure in gravity readings.
((Answer this factoid, John, and I will believe you until the ends of the Earth.))
Again, you should not offer this to anyone for any reason.
RICK:
((If John wants a way to prove anything – which from his previous
posts he has stated he DOESN’T WANT TO DO – then I am more than willing
to look over his proofs. However – just because I were to look
something over gives no more meaning to the rest of you than it would
if one of you looked his stuff over, believed it then told ME.))
Exactly!
MEL:
((How would someone that came here with no money all of the sudden
have plenty of money now? You could have brought the lowest
denomination coin of your time with a mint mark anywhere after 2001 and
probably convinced almost all of us. At least some people. It would be
hard to fake.))
The reason I don’t have 2036 money is because it takes up weight,
space and can be faked and I can’t use it for anything. What type of
expenses do you think a time traveler would have that I would need so
much money for?
SIMON:
((1) Simply inscribe your knowledge of any large scale events
(disasters, discoveries, etc etc) over the next six months (there
should be at least one memorable example) into a text file.
(2) Encrypt said text file.
(3) Give text file to a custodian. I sure Art Bell would volunteer, he’s very interested in time travel.
(4) In six months time give Art the encryption key and he can reveal what you said.))
The only problem is, now you have to trust the person who brings the information forward.
RANDY:
I’m not sure you really wanted me to answer those questions. If you
could be more specific I would enjoy the conversation. Do you believe
that faith alone will get you to God? Do you believe in an organized
force of evil that works against men’s souls?
13 coming…
Posted by John Titor on 02-08-2001 09:40 AM
Russia and China have always had a very strange relationship. Even
the news I see now indicates that continued weapons deals to allies,
border clashes and overpopulation will lead to hostilities. The West
will become very unstable which gives China the confidence to “expand”.
I’m assuming you are all aware that China has millions of male soldiers
right now that they know will never be able to find wives. The attack
on Europe is in response to a unified European army that masses and
moves East from Germany. Also, please be aware that from my viewpoint,
Russia attacked my enemy who was in the U.S. cities. Yes, the U.S. did
counter attack.
Based on what I know about the 5100, it has a few very interesting
and worthwhile properties that make it worthwhile for a time traveler
to recover. Also, please keep in mind that civilization is recovering
from a war. Yes, we do have the technology but many of the tools were
lost.
As you are probably aware, UNIX will have a timeout error in 2038
and many of the mainframe systems that ran a large part of the
infrastructure were based on very old IBM computer code. The 5100 has
the ability to easily translate between the old IBM code, APL, BASIC
and (with a few tweaks in 1975) UNIX. This may seem insignificant but
the fact that the 5100 is portable means I can easily take it back to
2036. I do expect they will create some sort of emulation system to use
in multiple locations.
When I arrived, I approached my father and was easily able to prove
to him who I was. I am currently with my parents and the “me” who is
three. They are very aware of what I am doing, why I am here and when I
will be leaving. It may interest you to know that my father still does
not truly believe the machine works even after touching and seeing it.
Yes, education is still taught in a classroom but the entire focus and
system looks nothing like what you have now. Don’t worry, you won’t
miss it.
((I still don’t buy your story. There are inconsistancies that are to large to write off…))
I understand your viewpoint and I respect it. However, I am
confused by a twist in the way the language is used. Another fellow who
posted earlier was a bit upset over what I was saying because he
thought I was soon going to ask for money by selling something. Since I
don’t have anything to sell I am curious why, “I…don’t buy your story”,
is the natural way to say what you did. I am aware that it’s off the
cuff to say but wouldn’t it be better to say I don’t believe your
story? Why is the other way so common?
Η άποψη μου είναι ότι ο τύπος ήταν «απάτη», σαφώς και ήταν κομπιουτεράς, για να είναι γνώστης του προβλήματος, αλλά όταν ρωτήθηκε και την κινητή τηλεφωνία, απάντησε «άλλα λόγια να αγαπιόμαστε», τότε το 2001 ήταν στους άμεσα εμπλεκομένους τουλάχιστον γνωστό, ότι το όνειρο των εταιρειών κινητής τηλεφωνίας, τουλάχιστον της Erricsson και της Samsung από το 1998-1999 ήταν τα σημερινά κινητά τηλέφωνα που έχουμε, πράγμα που πέτυχαν περίπου 15 χρόνια μετά, σήμερα το όνειρο της Sony (αγόρασε την Erricsson) και της Samsung είναι η επόμενη γενιά κινητών τηλεφώνων, να είναι μικροί κύλινδροι με εύκαμπτες αναδιπλούμενες οθόνες, για τα όνειρα της Motorola (ανήκει στην Google πλέον) της Nokia (ανήκει στην Microsoft πλέον) και της Apple δεν γνωρίζω, όνειρα που μετά από 15 χρόνια, περίπου το 2030, θα είναι πλέον στα χέρια μας, αρά θα του ήταν γνωστό και δεν θα απαντούσε «νάχαμε να λέγαμε».
Posted by John Titor on 02-24-2001 12:37 PM
LOLA:
((Why are orphans an issue? It seems war orphans would be pretty old by now.))
Problems with the environment still have lasting affects on all people,
which cause the average life span to lower. In addition, people are
more susceptible to accidents. Family life and children are very highly
valued and the community takes the responsibility for raising children
if their parents die.
((What is your biggest or gravest environmental issue?))
Water. You need it for everything and there is very little left in the world that is positively safe to drink.
((Does distillation remove radioactivity from water?))
It removes the dust and dirt particles that are radioactive.
((Do people still watch TV?))
Yes but it isn’t broadcast anymore.
((Are there any women on your travel team?))
Not that I’m aware of but I would assume there are women who are
either trained or are training for the same type of work. I don’t know
why there wouldn’t be.
((What is the status of women in your time?))
I understand the question but I have nothing to relate it to in
2036. The status of women is the same as men. Equality issues
disappeared during the war.
((Do they hold office?))
Yes.
((Work outside the home?))
Women are not expected to stay home and be “barefoot and pregnant” if that’s what you mean.
((Get equal pay?))
Yes.
((Are they safe on the streets at night?))
There is still crime but people do not attack each other the way they do here.
((What do women wear for the most part?))
Clothing is more functional. Women wear very similar clothing as
men when working or training. In our free time or with our family and
friends, clothing is much more individualized. Long dresses, knitted
sweaters and pants are still quite popular. You’ll have to forgive me;
I’m not very good at describing women’s clothing.
((Are the Amish alive and well?))
Yes, I believe they are.
((What is the birth rate?))
I don’t know the exact figures but having children is radically
lower than it is now. It is the one thing I wish we had that you enjoy
here.
((Is there an unusual rate of birth defects and if so what kind?))
Yes. Mostly stillborn.
((You said that your culture was centered around the Universities.
Weren’t they wiped out in the war? They are in cities after all. ))
Not all major universities are in large cities.
((Do you use cell phones?))
Yes, we use a form of cell phone.
((Eat allot of red meat?))
Yes but not as much as you do.
((Drive cars?))
Yes but they are not produced in nearly the same numbers or used the same way.
((Are airlines in operation?))
Yes but again, not nearly as many.
((Internationally?))
Yes, but most people don’t get really want to go overseas.
((Are people pressured (subtle or otherwise) to adhere to a Christian doctrine?))
Not at all.
((Do police make drug busts?))
No.
((Are there many jails? What kind of criminals are in them?))
Yes there are jails. Mostly theft, fraud, rape and murder.
((What kind of public punishment is there?))
Hard labor, community service, banishment (you must move to another community), public execution.
((Sounds like New England during religious persecution and intolerance. ))
How do you define intolerance? We don’t really have the energy or
desire to waste time being intolerant. If you produce and help the
community than you can do pretty much think and do anything you want
within the law.
((Are there Wholistic healers? Herbal medicines? Alternative life styles? ))
Yes.
((Is there personal freedom?))
Yes, the same freedoms you enjoy under the Constitution.
((Is there an IRS and a need to keep a lot of receipts and paperwork around to justify yourself?))
Yes, we pay taxes. Sounds like you don’t enjoy keeping track of your personal income taxes. I don’t think anyone does.
((Is the same type of currency used? Is ours today good in say 2010 or 2020?))
Yes, we use money. That’s a good question. I don’t see why you couldn’t use your current bills in the future.
((Other than time travel how do most people get around the country? Do people tend to travel much? ))
There is a high-speed train system, horseback, bike, walking. Automobiles are used mostly for sport and some transportation.
((Are people suspicious of strangers or all you one big happy family now?))
There is still conflict and mistrust. Yes, I am suspicious of
strangers. I think that’s an instinct we are given to help us stay
alive.
((How do most people die during the war? Radiation, starvation? bullet wounds?))
Correct…but in this order: Starvation – Disease – Bullet Wounds – Radiation.
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