Απεστάλη: 09/10/2005, 01:24:05
Δε βλέπω φως...
Ας ξαναβάλουμε το καδράκι λοιπόν.
Αριστερά ο κύριος είναι ο Μέγας κι ας μη του μοιάζει και πολύ.
Δεξιά ο κύριος λέγεται Αλ Χαντιρ (Al Khadir ή Al khidr), άγιος, προφήτης ή κάτι τέτοιο τελοσπάντων του ισλάμ.
Τι έψαχναν οι δυό τους και ποιός τελικά το βρήκε (αν το βρήκε);
Σημ: Το πιάτο έχει ψάρια...
φως θελεις αδελφε?
απλα η κουβεντα θα παει σε βαθια νερα και οχι τιποτα αλλο, αλλα δεν θα γινομαστε αντιληπτοι αν προχωρησουμε (κατι που ομολογω ποτε δεν με απασχολησε σοβαρα)
παμε λοιπον, με το χερι στην Καρδια, να βρουμε ποιος ηταν ο κυριος khidr...
κι επειδη με αναλογα θεματα εχω ηδη παρεξηγηθει απο καποιους στο παρελθον (κατι που ομολογω πως ποτε δεν με απασχολησε σοβαρα), ας αφησουμε να μιλησουν αλλοι:
"The first Sufi record of a teaching journey to England—such is contained in the travels of Najmuddin (Star of Faith) Gwath-ed-Dahar.
He was born about 1232, or perhaps earlier.
His son ”followed his father’s footsteps” from India to China in 1338.
The first Najmuddin was a disciple of the illustrious Nizamuddin Awlia of Delhi, who sent him to Rum (Turkey) to study under Khidr Rumi.
Khidr Rumi’s full name was Sayed Khidr Rumi Khapradri — the Cupbearer of Turkestan. It will be remembered that the Khidr order (equated with the Garter) has as its slogan a salutation to the cupbearer. This cup had miraculous qualities.
Idries Shaw’s comments on the cupbearer and the cup’s miraculous qualities parallel the Grail myth immensely. Further examination of Shaw’s comments shed even more illumination on the subject.
First, let us look at the name Khidr, which is also spelled Khizr.
It is a Moslem name used in reference to the Biblical prophet Elijah. As J.M. Campbell recorded in his classic 1894 essay, “On the Religion of Hemp :”
In his devotion to bhang (cannabis), with reverence, not with the worship, which is due to Allah alone, The North Indian Mussulman joins hymning to the praise of bhang.
To the follower of the later religion of Islam the holy spirit in bhang is not the spirit of the Almighty, it is the spirit of the great prophet Khizr, or Elijiah.
That bhang should be sacred to Khizr is natural, Khizr is the patron saint of water.
Still more Khizr means green, the revered color of the cooling water of bhang.
So the Urdu poet sings “When I quaff fresh bhang I liken its color to the fresh light down of thy youthful beard.”
The prophet Khizr or the green prophet cries “May the drink be pleasing to thee.”
Peter Lamborn Wilson makes the following comments on the Sufi term, Saki-Khaneh, House of the Cupbearer:
The saki or wine serving boy is a symbol of the Beloved or the spiritual master in Sufi poetry, but in Pakistan saki-khaneh is a slang term for a tea house that serves charas (hashish) and bhang.” — Scandal: Essays in Islamic Heresy
Shaw comments on the connections between the Arab Khidr Order and the famous British group, the Order of the Garter:
The early records of the Order of the Garter are lost.
Its patron saint was St. George , who is equated in Syria, where his cult originates, with the mysterious Khidr -figure of the Sufis.
It was in fact called the Order of St. George, which would translate direct into Sufi phraseology as Tarika-i-Hadrat-i-Khidr (the Order of St. Khidr).
It became known as the Order of the Garter. The word “garter” in Arabic is the same as the word for the Sufi mystical tie or bond.
The modern day Order of the Garter traces its origins to the Knights of the Round Table and is attributed to Saint George, who is by tradition considered to be the patron Saint of England.
History provides little factual records of who Saint George was and what his actual exploits were.
“Folklore named the pagan savior, Green George, a spirit of spring. His image was common in old church carvings, a human head surrounded by leaves.”
He is probably best remembered as the slayer of the dragon in a story that is found in twelfth century literature.
A Muslim writer in about AD 900 compared St. George with the Mesopotamian God Tammuz.
Moslems also identified St. George with the mysterious prophet Khidr, known as the Verdant One and whose footsteps leave a green imprint.
Khidr shares his day, 23 April, with the Saint. — William Anderson, The Archetype of Our Oneness with the Earth
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